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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 0000774 | SpeedFan | Other | public | 2007-02-01 05:55 | 2007-08-26 16:42 |
| Reporter | taytrr | Assigned To | alfredo | ||
| Priority | normal | Severity | crash | Reproducibility | always |
| Status | acknowledged | Resolution | open | ||
| OS | Windows | OS Version | XP SP2 | ||
| Product Version | 4.31 | ||||
| Summary | 0000774: Hangs on load | ||||
| Description | On load of SpeedFan 4.32 beta 8, system hangs (requiring hard-reset) during detection with all 4 drives connected to the Sil0680 (SiIO680) IDE RAID PCI controller. If only the primary set is plugged in SpeedFan will connect but only finds one temp sensor, possibly because the primary has the two drives configured as a stripped set (reporting only 1 drive to BIOS). I've not checked all olther configurations. The drives run normally otherwise with no disc errors. | ||||
| Steps To Reproduce | Run program with 4 drives connected to Sil0680 RAID controller. | ||||
| Additional Information | Attached is the configutation report from the SiICfg program (comes with the controller). | ||||
| Tags | No tags attached. | ||||
| Motherboard Model | |||||
| Video Card Model | Nvidia 6600 | ||||
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WR200CFG.txt (23,846 bytes)
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I've tested some different configurations and here are the results. In my tests, crashes only ocurred with 4 drives on the Sil0680 controller. Never were more than 2 drives detected by program and never more than one temp sensor (from drives) detected. Complete configs in attached .zip file. I'd love to help isolate & resolve the problem -- let me know if I can try anything else. Test # PM PS SM SS Result ------- --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- 1 Hit160 X X X 1 drive / 1 temp 2 Hit160 X Fuj20 X 2 drives/ 1 temp *1 3 Hit160 X Sam80 R0-A Sam80 R0-B 2 drives/ 1 temp *1 4 Sam80 R0-A X Sam80 R0-B X 1 drive / 1 temp 5 Sam80 R0-A Fuj20 Sam80 R0-B X 1 drive / 1 temp 6 Sam80 R0-A Sam80 R0-B Fuj20 X 2 drives/ 1 temp *2 7 Sam80 R0-A Sam80 R0-B X Fuj20 1 drives/ 1 temp 8 Sam80 R0-A Sam80 R0-B X X 1 drives/ 1 temp 9 X X Sam80 R0-A Sam80 R0-B 1 drives/ 1 temp 10 Sam80 R0-A Sam80 R0-B Fuj20 Max250 Lock-Up - see Note *3 11 Sam80 R0-A X Sam80 R0-B Max250 1 drives/ 1 temp 12 Sam80 R0-A Sam80 R0-B Sea80 R1-A Sea80 R1-B 2 drives/ 1 temp 13 Sam80 R0-A Max250 Sam80 R0-B Max250 Lock-Up - see Note *3 ------- --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- Notes: * In all tests the drives operated normally under windows. * Lock-up tests verified twice. *1 Both drives given same 'found' name. *2 Single drive Fuj20 identified as 'raid 0' set. *3 Lock-Up, needs hard reset - last text in status box: ----------------------------------------- SMART Enabled for drive 0 Found SiI RAID 0 Set (160.0GB) SMART Enabled for drive 1 ----------------------------------------- Legend: Sam80 = Samsung SP0842N 80GB Hit160 = Hitachi HDT722516DLAT80 164GB Fuj20 = Fujitsu MPG3204AT 20GB Max250 = Maxtor 6B250R0 250MB Sea80 = Seagate ST380021A 80GB R0-A = RAID 0 set 1 first Member R0-B = RAID 0 set 1 second Member R1-A = RAID 0 set 2 first Member R1-B = RAID 0 set 2 second Member X = No drive |
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Confirmed results with 4.32 final. |
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SIL drivers easily cause a crash when queried for SMART data. You can see only one temperature because SpeedFan detects the bogus data returned by the driver. Perhaps the driver has a bug that causes it to return fake data with less drives and to crash with more. |
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Would it be possible to ignore a device if it's causing a crash? Maybe set a crash-progress flag before detection of each device and (in the event of a crash) not load the device the next time? A really simple implementation could just write out a count after each detection and clear it when detection is through. If the program starts and there's a number in there then it know not to try detection on the next device. It would still be useful for the rest of the devices on the system. (pretty please . . .) |
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You can fix this by using the /NOSMARTSCAN command line option. This kind of error correction is something I've been considering and working on. It's not easy though. Sil drivers have another 'feature' too. They often return the same SMART data for several drives. SpeedFan detects this and avoids showing such bogus data. This can be the reason for two drives found, but only one temperature shown. |
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Adding the /NOSMARTSCAN allowed the app to load without freezing the system. A simple crash crash detection tied to closing the app would help. Something like writing out a file when it loads and deleting it when the app closes. If it's there on startup pop up a window asking if they want to start in safe mode (with all the command line options disabled--I saw quite a few in the hex editor). Being able to access those through the gui would be cool too. I imagine if someone had it in their startup and didn't know how to bypass they'd be ripping their hair out :) It'd sure help out noob's like me. Thanks for your time and help. |
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That's something I'm considering, but it would be more useful to track other kinds of issues. This one should never occurr, because it's a fault caused by a driver from another manufacturer and I'm focusing on SpeedFan's issues, not on other one's. To be honest, I'm surprised that some manufacturers keep on deploying drivers that contain issues years after those issues surfaced. |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2007-02-01 05:55 | taytrr | New Issue | |
| 2007-02-01 05:55 | taytrr | File Added: WR200CFG.txt | |
| 2007-02-01 05:55 | taytrr | Video Card Model | => Nvidia 6600 |
| 2007-02-02 07:10 | taytrr | Note Added: 0002340 | |
| 2007-02-02 07:11 | taytrr | File Added: testdetails.zip | |
| 2007-02-02 07:12 | taytrr | Note Edited: 0002340 | |
| 2007-02-02 07:13 | taytrr | Note Edited: 0002340 | |
| 2007-03-19 02:35 | taytrr | Note Added: 0002418 | |
| 2007-08-23 17:11 | alfredo | Note Added: 0002723 | |
| 2007-08-23 17:11 | alfredo | Status | assigned => acknowledged |
| 2007-08-24 06:35 | taytrr | Note Added: 0002732 | |
| 2007-08-24 08:43 | alfredo | Note Added: 0002734 | |
| 2007-08-25 01:21 | taytrr | Note Added: 0002747 | |
| 2007-08-26 16:42 | alfredo | Note Added: 0002761 |
