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0001799SpeedFanInstallationpublic2011-04-30 01:02
Reporter1337-w4nX0rAssigned Toalfredo 
PrioritynormalSeverityblockReproducibilityalways
Status acknowledgedResolutionopen 
PlatformH8SGL-FOSWindows 7 64bitOS VersionSP 1
Product Version4.43 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0001799: Speedfan hangs on startup, doesn't do anything
DescriptionSpeedfan doesn't seem to do anything.

I haven't been able to figure out whether or not Speefan is *supposed* to be compatible with this motherboard, but either way it doesn't seem to be.

This is a Supermicro H8SGL-F with an Opteron 6128, running under Windows 7 SP1 (64 bit version).

BTW, the 4.44 Beta doesn't work either, it hangs in exactly the same way.
Steps To Reproduce1. Log in with administrator privileges
2. Click on installspeedfan433.exe, follow instructions
3. Click on speedfan icon on desktop.
Additional InformationI have attached a screenshot depicting this particular flavor of "hanging on startup".
TagsNo tags attached.
Motherboard ModelSupermicro H8SGL-F
Video Card Model

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1337-w4nX0r

2011-04-28 13:52

reporter  

speedfan.gif (35,185 bytes)
speedfan.gif (35,185 bytes)

alfredo

2011-04-28 15:36

manager   ~0006143

Try this: copy ONLY speedfan.exe to another (even temporary) directory and run it. Does it still hang?

1337-w4nX0r

2011-04-28 16:14

reporter  

debug.nfo (5,168 bytes)

1337-w4nX0r

2011-04-28 16:16

reporter   ~0006147

Last edited: 2011-04-28 16:23

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Thanks for looking into this. Yes, it still hangs when running it after copying to an otherwise empty directory. I noticed there was a file named "debug.nfo" created on that occasion. I attached this file in case it's helpful.

alfredo

2011-04-28 16:27

manager   ~0006148

debug.nfo is interesting. Do you always get a debug.nfo like that when your start SpeedFan?

1337-w4nX0r

2011-04-28 16:37

reporter   ~0006149

Yes, this seems to be the case.

alfredo

2011-04-28 16:46

manager   ~0006150

Thank you. I will look at the source code to see what causes this issue.
By the way: do you experience the same issue with SpeedFan 4.42?

1337-w4nX0r

2011-04-28 17:00

reporter   ~0006151

Thank *you*. No, I have not tried that, because I'm a first time user. I tried to find the previous version SpeedFan 4.42 on your site (almico.com) and elsewhere, but I did not succeed.

alfredo

2011-04-28 17:13

manager   ~0006152

Please, contact me by email at alfredo [at] almico.com.

1337-w4nX0r

2011-04-28 19:03

reporter   ~0006153

Thanks for mailing the program. We're getting somewhere, 4.42 runs on my box, albeit not perfectly: This is what it says on startup:

Win9x:NO 64Bit:YES GiveIO:NO SpeedFan:YES
I/O properly initialized
Linked ISA BUS at $0290
Linked ATI SBx00 SMBUS at $0B00
Linked ISA BUS at $0CCB
SB7xx/8xx PM2 found on ISA at $CCB
Found nVidia Quadro NVS 295
Linked nVidiaI2C0 SMBUS at $3D403E3F
Linked nVidiaI2C1 SMBUS at $3D403637
Linked nVidiaI2C2 SMBUS at $3D405051
Scanning ISA BUS at $0290...
Scanning AtiIgp SMBus at $0B00...
LM84 found on SMBus at $19
CAT34TS02 (ID=$0812) found on SMBus at $1B
Vendor : $5CA3
ChipID : $79
Winbond W83795G (ID=$79 REV=$51) found on SMBus at $2F
SMBus msg : SMB Error $4F : COLLISION (0A)
SMBus msg : SMB Error $4F : COLLISION (0E)
SMBus msg : SMB Error $4F : COLLISION (0A)
LM75 found on SMBus at $4F
Scanning ISA BUS at $0CCB...
Scanning I2CNVidia SMBus at $3D403E3F...
Scanning I2CNVidia SMBus at $3D403637...
Scanning I2CNVidia SMBus at $3D405051...
End of detection
SMBus msg : SMB Error $2F : COLLISION (0A)
SMBus msg : SMB Error $2F : COLLISION (0E)
SMBus msg : 18:17:04.487 SELB $3C to $2F on AtiIgp (3 retries)
</quote>

Maybe these entries give some clue.

Oops. While I wrote this, the H8SGL box's screen went black. It just spontaneously died on me, and it doesn't respond to the power button either.

Didn't respond to the power button. I had to unplug it from the mains, wait half a minute, then plug it in again. It's still functional. Phew.

HWurst

2011-04-29 13:01

reporter   ~0006155

I experience the same "issue" on one computer, too.
In my case, it looks like the check of the certificate is taking a long time.
Did Speedfan really stop responding? In my case, it looks like it ran into a timeout when checking the (*.exe-)Certificate; after about 35-40 sec's of doing "nothing", Speedfan continues normally.
Debug is like (look at the time):
[...]
07.04.2011 00:41:06.586 - FORMCREATE : found ASUSTeK Computer INC. P7P55D Rev 1.xx
07.04.2011 00:41:06.586 - FORMCREATE : before PostMessage
07.04.2011 00:41:41.379 - FILE <D:\UPDATE\HARDWARE\ASUS\SpeedFan\RUN\4.44 beta 2\speedfan.exe> IS TRUSTED
07.04.2011 00:41:41.379 - SpeedFan executable is properly signed
[...]
THIS is for sure a problem of my computer, but I'm not sure which, at the moment...

alfredo

2011-04-29 13:45

manager   ~0006156

@HWurst
What you think is the issue is exactly what I expected it to be. The large delay you are experiencing is clearly shown in DEBUG.NFO file. I need to find out what could be causing this delay.

1337-w4nX0r

2011-04-29 14:14

reporter   ~0006158

Last edited: 2011-04-29 14:43

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Is there a way to prevent the certificate check, if only to test that hypothesis?

edit: by way of clarification, the computer in question is not connected to the internet, and is not meant to be.

Therefore it's logical that SpeedFan doesn't run, if it requires an internet connection to check certificates or something.

I tried it the other way, and plugged the computer in. Speedfan 4.43 started, showed some nonsensical readings, and then the screen went black again, the computer dead again. Same procedure as yesterday.

It sure looks like SpeedFan is seriously fucking with my hardware. Sorry guys, I'm out.

HWurst

2011-04-30 01:02

reporter   ~0006162

no Internet Connection needed (except SpeedFan is morsing home, haha!).
The Certificate Check is done on your Computer. Usually, all necessary Certificates
are installed.
I have solved the problem here. It was an outdated Certificate from
"Class 3 Public Primary Certification Authority" (valid until 08.01.2004).
Deleted it(!) and installed the current one valid until 02.08.2028 (is in the speedfan.exe-Certificate).
Tricky; usually no need to clean up Certificates, but it helped here (4.44b4)!

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2011-04-28 13:52 1337-w4nX0r New Issue
2011-04-28 13:52 1337-w4nX0r Status new => assigned
2011-04-28 13:52 1337-w4nX0r Assigned To => alfredo
2011-04-28 13:52 1337-w4nX0r File Added: speedfan.gif
2011-04-28 15:36 alfredo Note Added: 0006143
2011-04-28 15:36 alfredo Status assigned => acknowledged
2011-04-28 16:14 1337-w4nX0r File Added: debug.nfo
2011-04-28 16:16 1337-w4nX0r Note Added: 0006147
2011-04-28 16:23 1337-w4nX0r Note Edited: 0006147 View Revisions
2011-04-28 16:27 alfredo Note Added: 0006148
2011-04-28 16:37 1337-w4nX0r Note Added: 0006149
2011-04-28 16:46 alfredo Note Added: 0006150
2011-04-28 17:00 1337-w4nX0r Note Added: 0006151
2011-04-28 17:13 alfredo Note Added: 0006152
2011-04-28 19:03 1337-w4nX0r Note Added: 0006153
2011-04-29 13:01 HWurst Note Added: 0006155
2011-04-29 13:45 alfredo Note Added: 0006156
2011-04-29 14:14 1337-w4nX0r Note Added: 0006158
2011-04-29 14:42 1337-w4nX0r Note Edited: 0006158 View Revisions
2011-04-29 14:43 1337-w4nX0r Note Edited: 0006158 View Revisions
2011-04-30 01:02 HWurst Note Added: 0006162