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|ID||Project||Category||View Status||Date Submitted||Last Update|
|0001739||SpeedFan||Fan control||public||2011-01-28 00:12||2011-02-05 10:44|
|Platform||Intel Q6600||OS||Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit|
|Summary||0001739: 4.43 Beta Sys fan no control CPU fan no lower than 1042|
|Description||CPU fan 4 pin supply can be speed controlled but will go no lower than 1055 rpm|
System case fan 3 pin supply will not be controlled stays at 2312 rpm
No control or monitoring of graphics card fan Nvidia GeForce GTS 250
|Steps To Reproduce||always happens|
|Tags||No tags attached.|
|Motherboard Model||Asrock G31M-GS R2.0|
|Video Card Model||Nvidia GeForce GTS 250|
||Did you try 4.43 beta? Consider that PWM fans might have an internal circuitry that forbids stopping.|
Note - summary says "0001739: 4.43 Beta Sys fan no control CPU fan no lower than 1042"
I'm on 4.43 beta 10 - I could not select that as the product version in use ;-)
||Different fans react and behave differently when controlled using PWM. I have at least one fan that completely stops below 80%. I think this is the reason why you are experiencing this.|
||About the "product version", wasn't "SpeedFan 4.43 beta" on the list? I can see it.|
I can't see "SpeedFan 4.43 beta" on the "product version" list.
||Hello DelatFX, can you see it now?|
PS Cool programme by the way
I can see 4.43 beta now thanks
I'm not too worried about stopping the cpu fan - at bios setting of slow it's too noisy but using speedfan I can slow it to an acceptable noise level without temps rising under normal use.
Now I need to sort out the noisy case fan, which reduces the overall temperature of virtually all components by around 5 degrees, I might have to resort to a 7v or 5V rigged suppply, or a potentiometer/switch, or a new fan!
There does appear to be some inconsistency between temps (CPU for example) as reported in different utilities
In BIOS settings 43
Speedfan CPU 37
Piriform speccy 37
Asrock OC tuner 43
Core temp 37
Speedfan AUX 43 ? (no idea what this one is...)
||It looks like we all agree on 37C.|
||Except BIOS settings and Asrock OC tuner say 43 :-(|
||Yes, but that 43 is from the same source (Asrock), while 37 is from three different sources.|
From the manual:
<<CPU Quiet Fan
This item allows you to identify the temperature of CPU fan. If you set this
option as [Disabled], the CPU fan will operate in full speed. If you set this
option as [Enabled], you will find the items “Target CPU Temperature” and
“Target Fan Speed” appear to allow you adjusting them. The default value
is [Disabled]. You are allowed to enable this function only when you install
4-pin CPU fan.
Target CPU Temperature
The target temperature will be between 45 C/113 F and 65 C/149 F.
The default value is [50 C/122 F].
Target Fan Speed
Use this option to set the target fan speed. You can freely adjust the
target fan speed according to the target CPU temperature that you
choose. The default value is [Fast]. Configuration options: [Fast], [Middle]
What make/model fans? What BIOS H/W Monitor settings?
Yes danbendan the manual does say exactly that however, you may note I have already said "at bios setting of slow it's too noisy but using speedfan I can slow it to an acceptable noise level without temps rising under normal use"
Yes alfredo I am taking the majority vote :-)though if the manual says target temp is 45-65 with a default of 50, then I'm really cool running!
Well then, I assume you are running with CPU Quiet Fan=Enabled.
What happens if it is set to Disabled?
What are the settings in SpeedFan/Configure/Advanced ... PWM Mode?
You may want to try HWMonitor Free version (http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor/versions-history.html).
On this PC the following works:
SpeedFan/Configure/Advanced ... PWM Mode:
for the IKT8712F-j = software controlled
for the ADT7475 = Disabled
On this PC HWMonitor shows the current/actual PWM Mode settings and indicates conflicts between different speed setting programs such as SmartFan and QFan.
I do appreciate the help - honest
I have BIOS CPU Quiet Fan=Disabled
If I set it to Enabled and Slow - then it's too noisy, runs too fast and won't be controlled
In Configure advanced I have
Winbond W83627DHG-P at $290 on ISA
PWM 1 (through to 4) with options Manual, SmartFan3+ or Thermal Cruise and I have no idea what they do :-)
The free HWMonitor (which I already have) only shows both fan speeds not PWM Mode settings
As I said I've got the CPU fan running nice and quiet - and speeds up as CPU etc heats up and I have a sys case fan with a 3 way 5/7/12v switch running at a constant quiet speed (7v)
The cpu fan is 4 pin and currently the cpu on normal load (not much going on) is at 35 degrees
What is the W83627DHG setting?
What happens if you use Manual (any change in HWMonitor starting to show PWM Mode)?
PWM1 throughg to PWM4 are set at Manual as a default
I tried changing each of them to
but no change in anything..............anywhere or on HWM
do you have latest HWMonitor version (I use 1.17.0)
Is there more than one chip shown in advanced?
Could it be that the W83627DHG is for the CPU fan only and another chip is for the chassis fan?
Grasping at straws now ... sorry :(
No worries - the more I can understand it the better as I say the cpu fan is quiet on little load and goes faster as temp gets to limits on cpu, system and aux temps
Yes I have 1.17
Yes more than one chip in advanced - but can't see anything on chassis/system fan (though it is only 3 pin supply on m/b.
GeForce video card - not that, and can't control on auto from Nvidia controlpanel
(we know what they are)
Intel core - only shows DTS and temp offset
In the fans tab it shows CPU0 Fan, Sys Fan, AUX Fan, CPU1 Fan, AUX1 Fan
but of course I only have 4pin cpu and 3pin sys
In the SpeedFan/Configure/Temperature settings which temperatures are associated with the sys fan?
If the SpeedFan/Readings/Automatic Fan Speed box is unchecked and you change the % settings for the sys fan does anything change?
system 39 degrees
||In the SpeedFan/Configure/Temperature settings click on the + sign next to the temperature and check which fans are associated with each temperature.|
makes no difference - cpu and system both have cpu and sys fan ticked - when temp goes past limits cpu fan goes up, sys fan stays @ same speed all the time and does not vary even if I set auto off and reduce % manually....to 0% or if % reduces to 0 on auto
I really sppreciate your efforts - but it's not going to work...
when set to auto if I manual set it to 100 and then put auto on - the % drops but "the song remains the same"
from the ASRock Forum @ Tweaktown:
<<I don't know what is involved in this extra component/bios wise but it is a real bug bear of mine that the entry level boards have no chassis fan speed control (G31M-GS R2.0, N68-GS etc).>>
Seems to be a feature of the MB. Sorry I couldn't help.
||thanks for your efforts - as I said earlier I have a case fan with a 3way speed switch that switches power 5v 7v 12v and on 7v it provides plenty of cooling air circulation and is very quiet|
|2011-01-28 00:12||whoosh||New Issue|
|2011-01-28 00:12||whoosh||Status||new => assigned|
|2011-01-28 00:12||whoosh||Assigned To||=> alfredo|
|2011-01-28 00:14||alfredo||Note Added: 0005763|
|2011-01-28 00:14||alfredo||Status||assigned => acknowledged|
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