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0001716SpeedFanFan controlpublic2010-12-28 19:292010-12-28 22:31
Reporteroscarbfrog Assigned Toalfredo  
PriorityhighSeveritymajorReproducibilityalways
Status resolvedResolutionno change required 
Platformhp pavilion (2007) a1726xOSmicrosoftOS Versionwin-6, updated
Product Version4.42 
Summary0001716: suddenly lost ALL fan-speed control !
Descriptionactually sf 4.42 stable, just upgraded from 4.41 stable ... selection not available above.

sf is out of control for the first time since 2007. three days ago noticed hat ans wern;t running at 100% (which is where i want/need them) and there was ZERO controlability !!! sf will change speeds itself (seti/boinc on<->off) but NOTHING i could do would control the fans.
  
all three .cfg files exist ... but any/every change i attempt is dropped on the floor. i am logged in on an administrator account and sf is in the startup folder, as it has been for 3+ years.
Steps To Reproducereboot b0x.
Additional Informationcan i manually edit the .cfg files to reflect my needs?
TagsNo tags attached.
Motherboard Modelasus sometingorother .. how/where to find out?
Video Card Modelhow/where to find out?

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alfredo

2010-12-28 19:34

manager   ~0005615

Please, upload the output of a SEND REPORT (INFO tab).
Did you try the latest beta available online?

oscarbfrog

2010-12-28 19:40

reporter   ~0005617

just before i entered this issue, i -did- u/l from the 'send report' tab with whatever it collected in that process.

alfredo

2010-12-28 20:09

manager   ~0005618

How can I identify it? What is the first part of the email address you entered?

oscarbfrog

2010-12-28 20:21

reporter   ~0005619

email: oscarbfrog@

alfredo

2010-12-28 20:26

manager   ~0005620

Found. Thank you. Did you enter CONFIGURE / ADVANCED and set FAN ZONE/MODE to MANUAL?

alfredo

2010-12-28 20:27

manager   ~0005621

You could try the latest beta too. I'm working on it and it would be easier for me to fix.

oscarbfrog

2010-12-28 20:41

reporter   ~0005623

i replied to email ...as for the beta .. sure, i;ll give it a try ... and also recognize that 4.41 had been JustFine (tm) until 3 days ago and i have not done any updates. nor will i until i can regain fan/temp control. about a week ago (when speedfan was still under my control) i installed and then removed bitzipper. never ran it though. i;ll get the beta now.

oscarbfrog

2010-12-28 20:56

reporter   ~0005625

4.43 beta 4 installed and running .. no change; no speed control. with seti/boinc on<->off sf does change speeds itself but ther is no manual control at all, either 'manually controlled' or 'always full' withe r 'remember' box checked..

alfredo

2010-12-28 20:59

manager   ~0005626

Do you remember if previously you had to change FAN ZONE/MODE to change fan speeds using SpeedFan?

oscarbfrog

2010-12-28 21:04

reporter   ~0005627

i didn;t -have- to use the advanced stuff, just kicking up the % number on the front page worked perfectly. but sf alwyas started at a low %% so i poked arond until i found the fan zone/mode page w/options.

alfredo

2010-12-28 21:04

manager   ~0005628

The report you sent was configured "on REMOTE auto". Could you send me a report set to manual?

alfredo

2010-12-28 21:05

manager   ~0005629

By the way: did you update the BIOS?

oscarbfrog

2010-12-28 21:09

reporter   ~0005630

no, still original bios ...

alfredo

2010-12-28 21:11

manager   ~0005631

Do you have SpeedFan 4.41 available for a test?

oscarbfrog

2010-12-28 21:11

reporter   ~0005632

i would love to send a report with 'manual' set .. but sf -refuses- to accept that!

oscarbfrog

2010-12-28 21:12

reporter   ~0005633

i'm administrator, installed as admin ... ran as admin ...etc etc etc.

alfredo

2010-12-28 21:12

manager   ~0005634

Interesting. What happens exactly?

oscarbfrog

2010-12-28 21:12

reporter   ~0005635

yes, 4.41 is still in d/l area...

oscarbfrog

2010-12-28 21:13

reporter   ~0005636

as is 4.38 and 4.40 ....

oscarbfrog

2010-12-28 21:14

reporter   ~0005637

sf runs all by itself, as itself, ignoring EVERYTING i try to do ...

alfredo

2010-12-28 21:14

manager   ~0005638

Did you power off the computer?

oscarbfrog

2010-12-28 21:16

reporter   ~0005639

ummm, no .. wanna i do that now?

alfredo

2010-12-28 21:17

manager   ~0005640

There is a remote possibility that something in the hardware monitor chip got stuck. A power off would help.

oscarbfrog

2010-12-28 21:17

reporter   ~0005641

i'll cold restart b0x .. stand by...

alfredo

2010-12-28 21:22

manager   ~0005642

Last edited: 2010-12-28 21:33

 By the way, I see that FAN ZONES/MODE are "remembered":


Old sensor properly detected -->
  DME1737 on Intel SMBus @ $2E
PROP FAN3 zone/mode (18) = on REMOTE auto
on REMOTE auto is valid for FAN3 zone/mode
PROP FAN1 zone/mode (16) = on REMOTE auto
on REMOTE auto is valid for FAN1 zone/mode
PROP FAN2 zone/mode (17) = on REMOTE auto
on REMOTE auto is valid for FAN2 zone/mode

Make sure you set and "remember" the correct options there.

oscarbfrog

2010-12-28 21:49

reporter   ~0005643

bak ... strange .. fan 1 is quasi-controllable ... 100%= 4100 rpm, 97%= 2145 rpm but kicking up from 97% to 100% .. gets fan1 to 4100 rpm. oh,well, it;s controllable. however, fan2 seems controllalble from 1720rpm down/up to 300 rpm but i -think- fan2 max rpm is about 2200 rpm (iirc).

oscarbfrog

2010-12-28 21:49

reporter   ~0005644

i;m going to cold boot again into a diff admin account.. standby...

alfredo

2010-12-28 21:54

manager   ~0005645

Selecting a different PWMOUT CLOCK might help.

oscarbfrog

2010-12-28 22:00

reporter   ~0005646

hmmm, acting right, now ... or at least, manually controllable anyway. what does pwmout clock do? pulse width modulatoin out ... and ????

alfredo

2010-12-28 22:30

manager   ~0005647

It changes the frequency used for PWM control.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-12-28 19:29 oscarbfrog New Issue
2010-12-28 19:29 oscarbfrog Status new => assigned
2010-12-28 19:29 oscarbfrog Assigned To => alfredo
2010-12-28 19:34 alfredo Note Added: 0005615
2010-12-28 19:34 alfredo Status assigned => acknowledged
2010-12-28 19:40 oscarbfrog Note Added: 0005617
2010-12-28 20:09 alfredo Note Added: 0005618
2010-12-28 20:21 oscarbfrog Note Added: 0005619
2010-12-28 20:26 alfredo Note Added: 0005620
2010-12-28 20:27 alfredo Note Added: 0005621
2010-12-28 20:41 oscarbfrog Note Added: 0005623
2010-12-28 20:56 oscarbfrog Note Added: 0005625
2010-12-28 20:59 alfredo Note Added: 0005626
2010-12-28 21:04 oscarbfrog Note Added: 0005627
2010-12-28 21:04 alfredo Note Added: 0005628
2010-12-28 21:05 alfredo Note Added: 0005629
2010-12-28 21:06 alfredo Product Version 4.40 => 4.42
2010-12-28 21:09 oscarbfrog Note Added: 0005630
2010-12-28 21:11 alfredo Note Added: 0005631
2010-12-28 21:11 oscarbfrog Note Added: 0005632
2010-12-28 21:12 oscarbfrog Note Added: 0005633
2010-12-28 21:12 alfredo Note Added: 0005634
2010-12-28 21:12 oscarbfrog Note Added: 0005635
2010-12-28 21:13 oscarbfrog Note Added: 0005636
2010-12-28 21:14 oscarbfrog Note Added: 0005637
2010-12-28 21:14 alfredo Note Added: 0005638
2010-12-28 21:16 oscarbfrog Note Added: 0005639
2010-12-28 21:17 alfredo Note Added: 0005640
2010-12-28 21:17 oscarbfrog Note Added: 0005641
2010-12-28 21:22 alfredo Note Added: 0005642
2010-12-28 21:33 alfredo Note Edited: 0005642
2010-12-28 21:49 oscarbfrog Note Added: 0005643
2010-12-28 21:49 oscarbfrog Note Added: 0005644
2010-12-28 21:54 alfredo Note Added: 0005645
2010-12-28 22:00 oscarbfrog Note Added: 0005646
2010-12-28 22:30 alfredo Note Added: 0005647
2010-12-28 22:31 alfredo Status acknowledged => resolved
2010-12-28 22:31 alfredo Resolution open => no change required